Monday, May 30, 2011
The Difference between Grapes and Wine
"Why are you not eating like us?".
At which the Sheik replied:
"Do you see me eating with my nose?"
The French officer replied:
"I mean, why don't you use a fork and knife?"
The Sheikh replied"
"I am sure of the cleanliness of my hand, but are you sure of the cleanliness of your fork and knife?"
This made the French officer silent, but he made up his mind to get vengeance on the old Sheikh. At the fiest, the wife of the French officer was sitting to his right, and daughter to his left. The French officer, to spite the man of God, asked for wine to be brought, and proceeded to pour for himself, his wife and daughter, and proceeded do drink in a way to annoy the Sheikh.
He asked him:
"Listen O Sheikh, you like grapes, and eat them, don't you?"
At which the Sheikh replied in the affirmative.
The French officer continued talking, pointing towards the grapes, hoping to beat the old Sheikh:
"This drink is from these grapes, so why do you eat the grapes, but keep far from the wine?"
All the guests looked at the old Sheikh, (feeling that he would have no reply for this).
The Sheikh, calmly replied:
"This is your Wife, and this, your Daughter, is from her. So how is it that your Wife is legitimate for you but your Daughter is not?"
It is said that the French officer immediately ordered for the wine to be removed from the table.
May Allah guide us all and give us the wisdom not only to discern right from wrong but also to follow the right path after having identified it and then keeping on traveling in that same direction till the last day. Aameen.
Sunday, May 29, 2011
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Saturday, May 28, 2011
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Monday, May 23, 2011
A Beautiful Hadith
When after the burial, the people return home, 2 angels, Munkar and Nakeer(names of two special Angels), come in the grave and try to separate this handsome man so that they may be able to interrogate the dead man in privacy about his faith. But the handsome man says, 'He is my companion, he is my friend. I will not leave him alone in any case. If you are appointed for interrogation, do your job. I cannot leave him until I get him admitted into Paradise '.
Thereafter he turns to his dead companion and says, 'I am the Qur'an, which you used to read, sometimes in a loud voice and sometimes in a low voice. Do not worry. After the interrogation of Munkar and Naker, you will have no grief.'
When the interrogation is over, the handsome man arranges for him from Al-Mala'ul A'laa (the angels in Heaven) silk bedding filled with musk..
Rasulullah (Sallallahu alaihe wasallam) said: 'On the Day of Judgement, before Allah, no other Intercessor will have a greater status than the Qur'an, neither a Prophet nor an angel.'
Rasulullah (Sallallahu alaihe wasallam) said:
'Pass on knowledge from me even if it is only one verse'.
May Allah bestow this favour on all of us.
AMEEN
Wednesday, May 18, 2011
A New photo of situation room
Eye Witness say that the Osama Bin Laden Operation was a failure
Only ONE helicopter dropped off the Navy Seals . picked them up again and it was the one that exploded. Their dead bodies were scattered all over the place and all the occupants of that helicopter died. There are hundreds of witnesses who saw the dead bodies with broken limbs, heads etc lying around.
No other helicopter either landed or dropped anyone or picked up anyone. So how did they get the body of OBL? It's obviously a lie. All the Navy Seals that landed are dead.
Eye Witness Interview
It was a totally unsuccessful mission and the whole story is a drama and the Pakistan Army knows it. Yet they're trying to prove the American lies to be true.
How did they get OBL's body and those computer files they're showing to the world?
There are also strong evidence that Osama Bin Laden did not go down easily. He was taken to copter after being captured. Seals didn't search him for any explosives so once he was on board he blew himself. Thus bringing down the copter and killing all 12 seals plus pilots on board.
Video of Osama Burial at Arabian Sea
Tuesday, May 17, 2011
Pakistan's Transgender Group Of Tax Collectors
In a move that speaks volumes about the lengths to which Pakistan is going to tackle tax evasion, Karachi officials are using Riffee - who like many people in South Asia works under a single name - and her team as enforcers with a difference. They are sent to the businesses or houses of debtors. The aim -- in this very conservative Muslim society -- to embarrass tax debtors into paying up.
Riffee -- like her tax-collector friends Sana and Kohan -- is physically a man, but prefers to be called and dress as a woman. Their job is quite simple: each morning they turn up to work and get a list of missed payments. One by one, they make house-calls, causing trouble at each debtor's home or office, trying to get them to pay up. It's not clear how effective this tactic is, but officials insist they would not do it if it did not work.
"Their appearance causes great embarrassment amongst the people," said Sajid Hussein Bhatti, the tax superintendent who gives Riffee her orders every morning.
When Riffee was a 10-year-old boy, she decided she wanted to be a woman. Since then, she says, she's endured plenty of prejudice. "We're trying to educate society and show them how we like ourselves, but if your parents don't understand you or give you respect, how can you expect other people to?"
A Pakistani court ruling two years ago gave eunuchs -- men who have been castrated -- the right to be referred to as a "third gender." Riffee believes the same right should extend to her and her friends, although they have not been castrated.
We followed them as they visit a series of electrical appliance shops. The first debtor insists there's been a mistake and the bill's been paid. The second is less amenable, so the team threaten to come back 24 hours later, half a dozen strong -- and dance in the shop. That just may be enough to get a tax bill settled.
There is a serious side though to this theatrical tactic. Pakistan's tax take is dire: barely 1 per cent of Pakistanis pay any income tax, and the government is frantically trying to increase its income -- partially to placate the International Monetary Fund. Pakistan wants to borrow up to another $5 billion from the IMF, which insists the state improves its tax collection.
The government is seriously indebted -- and only 1.9 million people in a country of 170 million filed tax returns at all last year. By some estimates 10 million people are registered to pay taxes in Pakistan; the great majority don't pay a rupee.
In a country where many say the courts are weak and the police corruptible, Riffee and the team are a last, albeit striking, resort.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/04/14/Pakistan.tax.collectors/index.html?hpt=C1
Monday, May 16, 2011
Formula 1 F1 Grand Prix Spain 2011 Live
The Grand prix of Catalunya is considered to be one of the best-designed circuits of the championship and extremely appreciated by the drivers.
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The man behind Taliban's Spring Offensive 2011
- Mullah Abdul Qayyum Zakir is the man leading the offensive.
- He is a former Guantánamo inmate.
- He’s making it clear that no one will be allowed to sit around in Pakistan. Everyone has to get involved or they’re out.
- On America's list of high-value targets, he ranks second only to Mullah Mohammed Omar.
- He’s famous among the Taliban for his almost foolhardy courage, and he seems painfully aware that this could be a make-or-break year in the Taliban’s long battle to reclaim its former supremacy in Afghanistan.
- Taliban sources close to him say he’s been holding eight to 10 meetings a day, from early morning until late at night.
- His drive, charisma, and raw nerve have made him a very dangerous man. The son of a poor farmer in Helmand province, he joined the Taliban soon after the group was formed in 1994, and by 2001 he had risen to become one of Mullah Omar’s top military commanders.
- He is responsible for most of the Allied deaths in the provinces of Kandahar and Helmand
Thursday, May 12, 2011
Pakistan's 3rd nuclear power plant goes online
- Pumps another 330 MW into the national grid
- Located 32 kilometres south of Mianwali city and, 280 kms south-west of Islamabad.
- Chashma-2 completed three months ahead of the scheduled time
- 2 more power plants C-3 and C-4 already under construction at this site
- PAEC to meet the government assigned target of 8800 MW by the Year 2030
- The Prime Minister urged the international community to eliminate discrimination between nations. He pointed that Pakistan has been consistently complying with the requirements of IAEA
- With the Chasnupp-2 the country's nuclear energy generation would rise to 725 megawatts.
The reason why Stealth Helicopter came down
The tail section has marks of bullets which may indicate it this was the reason it came down. It was brought down by Pakistan army fire since no weapons were recovered from compound and no resistance was shown in compound. Locals reported ball of fire which in another indication of helicopter being brought down by enemy fire rather thn mechanical malfunction.
The tail is upside down which indicates the helicopter didn't hard landed but crashed. So this is one more lie that has been caught. Which also cast shadow on official account that no one was injured. To me if helicopter lands on its blades there is huge chance of fire and explosion. Also huge risk of fatal injures. So there must have been deaths plus local people also reported parts of bodies scattered all around.
Here is the link of Osama's neighbor talking about the event as it happened.
Wednesday, May 11, 2011
Muhammad (PBUH) mentioned in Bible/Old Testament /New Testament
The absolute truth about Muhammad in the bible Part 1
The absolute truth about Muhammad in the bible Part 2
The absolute truth about Muhammad in the bible: Rabbis who acknowledging the fact and readers who may never know!Many Americans converting to Islam despite growing islamaphobia
Despite a growing culture of Islamophobia in the United States, around 20,000 Americans convert to Islam every year. Many converts face discrimination in their everyday lives, but say they don't regret their decision. In the nine years since 9/11, these converts have seen bans on Muslim religious clothing and racial profiling against Muslims at airports. They say the mainstream media doesn't help portray a good image of converts and only reports on the small number of extremist radicals.Michael Moore- The Qur'an
On CNN Michael Moore commenting on Burn the Qur'an day says Christ is mentioned 25 times in it! Why burn it?Necromancy
God is the creator of the universe and He is holding the whole universe in His grip. This is such a fact which is not hidden from anyone. We often read such Quranic verses which tell us that even a leaf can't move without His order. But we are also well aware of a fact that God has created two ways before man i.e. the way of Good and evil. It is totally for man to choose the way he likes.
We are also well acquainted that we are breathing in a modern era. Where this modern era has given us luxuries and ease, it has received a very heavy toll from us. As a result we; the human beings are deprived of respite and finally a prey to mental disorder and frustration but this is also wrong way adopted by us to get rid of this frustration.
We have destroyed our own social structure and joint family system. Today we consider our own sufferings and miseries due to others. We don't pause for a moment to look upon the reasons of our miseries. We take them as the function of magic. So we are ready to do the same proceedings with our opponents. Now magic is intruding our affairs to a great extend.
If we survey our routine life, we will find a number of such cases in the families where mother in law and daughter in law are having such excuses against each other. When such situation exists, the flatterer magicians are the most benefited. They draw such a horrible scene that is sufficient to horrify anyone.
If we try to see , we will find that our society is badly in the clutches of such people. These days the practice of magic is very common. People intend to contact magicians for their disease instead of doctor who fails to understand some mysterious situations. In some cases, needles are found inside the human body. Some times, blood or water drops fall on a person. These are a few signs found anywhere on any person who becomes victim of magic.
The real tragedy is that even the intelligentsia is involved in such practices. The magician taking help or praying satan do such things. The people who have no faith and who don't believe in God perform such actions and the people believing in God, put aside all their beliefs and chase magicians for the attainment of their beliefs. If any boy's proposal is rejected, the ignorant family takes revenge from that specific girl and her family. They suffer if magic is not find out. It spoils the families and business and even the bright future of someone. The magicians just need the name of person and their mother's name. Sometimes, they use picture of the unfortunate to ruin them for the whole life. They remain neither alive nor dead. It will not be wrong to say that it snatches the peaceful life.
The need of the hour is to educate the public to live peacefully and to lesson the anger, promoting the habit to forgive and to bear. The belief in the day of judgement should be strengthened. People should know that they are not the masters of life and death. The ultimate master of everything is Allah. The pursuits of this world are temporary and to spoil the final and ultimate life for the ordinary luxuries of the world is not a very wise bargain.
Tuesday, May 10, 2011
US was prepared to fight with Pak troops in Osama raid
assault force hunting down Osama bin Laden last week was large enough to fight its way out of Pakistan
if confronted by local troops.According to the official, two teams of specialists were on standby in this regard.
He said that Obama while reviewing the plans insisted to increase the troops for the protection of assault team, after which two extra helicopters packed with SEALs were put on alert to control any untoward incident.
Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee Mike Mullen on Sunday met with Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani while meeting between CIA Chief Leon Panetta and ISI Chief Shuja Pasha is expected soon.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/NewsDetail.aspx?ID=15342
Pakistan denies US access to Bin Laden’s widows and compound
According to a report published by a US newspaper, Pakistan’s denial increased tension between the two sides. The White House itself confirmed that Pakistan had denied the US access to Bin Laden’s widows and his compound in Abbottabad
. Obama administration said that the US was trying to remove the hurdles and take steps forward in the matter.It is pertinent to mention here that the US commandos, after killing Osama, left his widows and most of the stuff, found in his compound, behind; which are now in Pakistan’s custody.
http://www.dunyanews.tv/index.php?key=Q2F0SUQ9MiNOaWQ9MjU3NjA=
PAF detected US planes near Jalalabad border before OBL operation
“One aircraft was identified as a US AWACS and the remaining five were recognised as F-18 jets of the US. These planes flew near the Pakistani border, but did not cross into the airspace of Pakistan,”
the report added.Meanwhile, the PAF formed a special investigation committee to probe into the violation of Pakistan’s airspace by the US helicopters to kill Osama bin Laden. It is the first committee formed to investigate the incident. The team will see how the Pakistani forces remained ignorant about the presence of foreign helicopters.
The committee, being headed by a group captain, has started its work by checking the record of radars thoroughly and interviewing officials who were on duty when the US helicopters violated Pakistan’s airspace.
“More such committees will be formed to unveil the facts about the Abbottabad operation,” the sources added. The committee will investigate how Pakistan’s radar system, which could detect the flights outside Pakistan’s limit, could not notice the US helicopters, which entered into Pakistan and remained there for hours. The officers of PAF will also examine the aspect whether the planes, traced by the radars, were meant to divert the attention of Pakistani forces.
http://thetimesofpakistan.com/2011/05/09/paf-detected-us-planes-near-jalalabad-border-before-obl-operation/
Bossier (LA) Mosque Vandalized
They reported to police that a white male in a blue pick-up truck tampered with the doors at the Mosque. When he left, they discovered he had left pork on the door handles so people would have to touch it to go inside. Muslims do not eat pork, and try to avoid it because they consider it unclean.
Mosque members are not pressing charges, but reported the incident to police so it would be on file. Police say it could be considered a hate crime.
"It appears that the individual who did this tried to intimidate the individuals at this location," said Mark Natale, a spokesman for the Bossier City Police Department.
Local leaders from other religions say they were saddened to hear about the incident.
"It's kind of chilling. I mean, I know that nobody was physically hurt, but psychologically it's hurtful," said Susan Gross, the Executive Director of the North Louisiana Jewish Federation.
"It's not helpful for anyone. Whether you're Muslim, Jewish, or Christian, it's not helpful. It doesn't build bridges," said Paul Martin, the Assistant Rector at St. Paul's Episcopal Church in Shreveport.
Members of the Mosque say they just hope nothing like this happens again.
http://www.ksla.com/story/14602327/bossier-mosque-vandalized
Monday, May 9, 2011
Osama & 911 False Flag/Stand Down operation - Dr. Steve Pieczenik
Dr. Pieczenik goes on record (again) saying that Osama Bin Laden has been dead since 2002 and that 911 was a False Flag / Stand Down operation, as was told to him by a US General. He reveals much more information in this condensed edition of the original 3 hour interview .
Dr. Pieczenik served 5 US Presidential administrations (Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan and Bush Sr.), He specializes in psyops training for the US military and was a member of the CFR. He trained in psychiatry at Harvard University and international relations at M.I.T., his Tom Clancy novels are based on over twenty years experience resolving international crises and hostage situations for the Department of State for four administrations.
Dr. Pieczenik's Website
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List of Medicine Recovered from Osama Compound
- Tablet
- Ulcer Capsule
- Tab/Cap Gabapentine is a drug frequently used to control seizures or to ease nerve pain. The drug is often used to combat the burning or aching pain that lingers after shingles infections.
- Penza drops
- Natrilix is a drug used to treat high blood pressure and congestive heart failure and this drug should not be used by people with kidney failure.
- Grucid is used for easing the symptoms of stomach problems, such as ulcers and gastric reflux.
- Avena syrup is used as an artificial sweetener often used for a sour stomach.
- NIFIM, an antibiotic
- Syp, Tixylax , its use generally for children for chest problems.
- Brufen syp is a common pain reliever.
- Dettole, an antiseptic
But there’s nothing here that indicates a long-term, chronic condition just as much rumored Osama's kidney problem.
Sunday, May 8, 2011
Altaf Hussain The Osama Bin Laden of Pakistan
Altaf Hussain Grilled By George Galloway
a bit longer version
George Galloway Blasts MQM & Altaf Husain in the British Parliament
Pakistan Keeps Asia's Wheat Supply Running!
"Pakistan has filled a crucial gap in Asian wheat trade due to the absence of supply from the Black Sea region," said a Singapore-based executive with a global trading company.
If Pakistan hadn't permitted wheat exports during this period of tight overall global supply, price conscious buyers in South Asia and Southeast Asia would have had to turn to costly alternative supply from Canada, the U.S. and Europe.
The absence of Pakistan would have also increased demand pressure in Australia, where ports are already facing congestion and there are logistical delays in moving wheat from upcountry warehouses.
Pakistan approved wheat exports in December and shipments began the following month.
In less than four months it has shipped out an estimated 1.16 million metric tons of wheat.
The International Grains Council has projected Pakistan's wheat exports in the year ending June 30 at 1.6 million tons, the highest in at least four years.
Close to 1 million tons of Pakistan's wheat has been exported in bulk shipments and 160,000 tons in containers, said Muhammed Najib Balagamwalla, chairman of the Seatrade Group, a Karachi-based commodities trading company.
Bangladesh has emerged as the major buyer of Pakistan's wheat, purchasing more than 700,000 tons from the south Asian country, traders said.
The country is one of the world's largest wheat importers, buying around 3.0 million-3.5 million tons of the grain annually.
Since Russia banned grain exports last August and exporters in Ukraine defaulted on several deals, Bangladesh purchased cargoes from a variety of origins, including Germany, Canada, Brazil and Australia, before finding a less expensive source in Pakistan.
Pakistan's milling wheat is among the cheapest in the world. Even though the bulk of the sales are to Bangladesh, thousands of containers have also been shipped to southeast Asian countries and to the United Arab Emirates.
Earlier this year, Pakistan sold wheat around $329-$335 a ton, free on board, while recent sales have been around $300-$310/ton.
With freight charges of around $4-$18/ton for wheat export in containers from Pakistan, Southeast Asian buyers have locked in purchases at less than $320/ton on a cost-and-freight basis for prompt shipment.
Earlier this month, Australian Prime Wheat traded at $423/ton and Australian Standard White around $370/ton, C&F, for bulk shipment in June.
Last month, Taiwan bought high-quality U.S. milling wheat for bulk shipment in April and May at prices between $350 and $564/ton, C&F.
"Bulk shipments are still taking place from Australia and the U.S. but they are costlier and take more time to deliver," said one of the transnational grain exporters.
Flour millers in Vietnam and Malaysia, which require limited volumes on short notice, prefer Pakistan's grain, he said.
Pakistan's exporters are purchasing the grain from the provincial governments of Sindh and Punjab. Exports of existing stocks will make room for the bumper harvest that is under way.
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110418-703894.html
Thar Coal Project, Not looking good unfortunately
More than 70% of coal is mined using the traditional open pit method after which it is either burnt to produce power or converted to gas under controlled processes above the ground. In the 21st century due to environmental considerations banks are not funding coal fired power plants. Thar Lignite Coal is ideal for gasification after mining using the standard open pit method. Pakistan does not have the expertise to convert Thar coal into gas using the UCG method as claimed by Dr Samar, since July 2009 we have been waiting for an answer to our question: where is the gas?
http://nation.com.pk/Pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Opinions/Letters/22-Mar-2011/Thar-coal-project
Something is Very Wrong with the Bin Laden Kill Story
Bin Laden “was used in the same way that 9/11 was used to mobilize the emotions and feelings of the American people in order to go to a war that had to be justified through a narrative that Bush junior created and Cheney created about the world of terrorism.” — Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik
With the (at least second) death of Usama bin Laden now creating a tsunami of feelings and frothy nationalism, millions of people are finding a sense of emotional closure, some stitches to help seal the wound, the fear and confusion of 9-11-2001.
But something is very wrong with the administration’s slip-sliding story of midnight heroics executing the bad guy behind 9-11, then disposing of his body so no one could verify the alleged DNA match and saying “Just trust us” – as though many people do.
Surface irregularities
The photo of President Obama and a roomful of his advisers apparently watching the operation go down (recorded by helmet-cams worn by the SEALS) turns out to be a picture of them watching … something else. Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta acknowledged that the helmet-cams were not on during the operation, and were off for 25 minutes (others say 35) after the SEALS entered the compound.
And that million-dollar mansion in which bin Laden lived? Well, no. Property records showed that the land was worth $48,000 when it was purchased in stages in 2004 and 2005, according to the Associated Press.[i]
Initially, the story was presented as a vicious firefight against an armed compound, where bin Laden used his wife as a human shield, firing at the invaders from behind her. Now it seems that bin Laden was not armed, was not using anyone as a shield, and was in his pajamas when shot.[ii]
Salon’s Glenn Greenwald cut to the chase in his May 3rd column: “In bin Laden killing, media – as usual – regurgitates false Government claims”:
“Yesterday [May 2, 2011], it was widely reported that bin Laden “resisted” his capture and “engaged in a firefight” with U.S. forces…. It was also repeatedly claimed that bin Laden used a woman — his wife — as a human shield to protect himself, and that she was killed as a result. That image — of a cowardly though violent-to-the-end bin Laden — framed virtually every media narrative of the event all over the globe. And it came from many government officials, principally Obama’s top counter-terrorism adviser, John Brennan.”
All major media dutifully reported this made-for-movie story. But by the next day it was obvious that almost all of the key dramatic elements in the story were completely false: fictions for the masses, facts be damned. Greenwald:
“No matter how many times this happens — from Jessica Lynch’s heroic firefight against Iraqi captors to Pat Tillman’s death at the hands of Evil Al Qaeda fighters — it never changes: the narrative is set forever by first-day government falsehoods uncritically amplified by establishment media outlets, which endure no matter how definitively they are disproven in subsequent days.” [iii]
This is the psychology of the “Big Lie”: we tend to swallow wildly exaggerated stories more than little lies, because we assume that others would not use that degree of dishonesty. It’s playing to car-crash journalism, and our love of a simple and pure story of vengeance by the Good Guys over The Forces of Evil. We love good theater.
Who benefits from this Kabuki Theater story? Well, when Obama met for a chat with firefighters from Engine 54 in lower Manhattan, he assured them – and, through the media, the rest of us: “You’re always going to have a president and an administration who’s got your back.”[iv]
Deeper misdirection
If this shifting story were no more than politics as usual in a propaganda-driven world, we could swallow it – at least as well as we’ve swallowed the earlier untrue and manipulative stories about Jessica Lynch and Pat Tillman. But there are enough stories from then-reputable sources indicating that the bin Laden kill story’s Big Lie goes much deeper: frighteningly deeper. These more disturbing stories indicate that Usama bin Laden was not even connected to the events of 9-11, let alone their “mastermind” — and that he died in 2001.
Usama bin Laden is a red herring
On November 13, 2002, just fourteen months after 9-11, a blogger contributed this to Buzzflash (www.buzzflash.com):
For your amusement and future reference, here’s what Bush has said about bin Laden at various points in time, depending on how he was trying to spin things:
“The most important thing is for us to find Usama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him.”
- G.W. Bush, 9/13/01
“I want justice…There’s an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, ‘Wanted: Dead or Alive,’”
- G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI
“…Secondly, he is not escaping us. This is a guy, who, three months ago, was in control of a county [sic]. Now he’s maybe in control of a cave. He’s on the run. Listen, a while ago I said to the American people, our objective is more than bin Laden. But one of the things for certain is we’re going to get him running and keep him running, and bring him to justice. And that’s what’s happening. He’s on the run, if he’s running at all. So we don’t know whether he’s in cave with the door shut, or a cave with the door open — we just don’t know….” – GW Bush, remarks in an open meeting with the Press Travel Pool at Bush’s “ranch” in Crawford TX, 12/28/01, as reported on the official White House site.
“I don’t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority. I am truly not that concerned about him.”
- G.W. Bush, responding to a question about bin Laden’s whereabouts, 3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02) [v]
This last quote was the statement – made just two and a half months after Bush swore to find bin Laden and bring him to justice – showing that even GW Bush didn’t consider Usama bin Laden an essential part of the story for which our soldiers – and perhaps millions of citizens in Arab countries – have shed so much blood and so many life-altering injuries.
Usama bin Laden cannot be connected to 9-11
What did Usama himself say about 9-11? In a Sept. 28, 2001 interview with the Pakistani newspaper Ummat, bin Laden is reported to have said:
“I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle.”[vi]
FBI admits they have no evidence connecting bin Laden to 9-11
According to the FBI “Wanted” page[vii]: “Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world.”[viii]
When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on the FBI’s web page, Rex Tomb, the FBI’s chief of investigative publicity, is reported to have said, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.”[ix]
In fact, FBI Director Robert Mueller and Vice President Dick Cheney both admit there is no evidence linking bin Laden to 9-11. On March 29, 2006, on The Tony Snow Show, Vice President Dick Cheney stated: “We’ve never made the case, or argued the case, that somehow Osama Bin Laden was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming.”[x]
At the end of their Top Ten list, the FBI notes that bin Laden “is left-handed and walks with a cane.”
This last comment is important because there are reports of the CIA creating fake bin Laden videos – at least one with a right-handed actor looking to be 80-100 lbs. fatter, and with a much fatter nose, than Usama bin Laden — which have been embarrassingly easy to spot as fake.
Former CIA Officials Admit To Faking Bin Laden Video
Steve Watson, PrisonPlanet,Tuesday, May 25th, 2010:
“Two former CIA officials have admitted to creating a fake video in which intelligence officers dressed up as Usama Bin Laden and his cronies in an effort to defame the terrorist leader throughout the Middle East.
“The details are outlined in a Washington Post article by investigative reporter and former Army Intelligence case officer Jeff Stein.”[xi][xii]
Could the CIA group of “dark skinned actors” have been behind the infamous December 2001 “Fat nosed” Bin Laden video, that was magically found in a house in Jalalabad after anti-Taliban forces moved in?
The tape featured a fat Usama laughing and joking about how he’d carried out 9/11. The video was also mistranslated in order to manipulate viewer opinion and featured “Bin Laden” praising two of the hijackers, only he got their names wrong. This Usama wrote with his right hand (the real Usama was, as the FBI site noted, left-handed). The actor playing Fat Usama in the December 2001 staged video, also wore gold rings: a practice totally in opposition to the Muslim faith.
Despite the fact that the man in the video looks nothing like Bin Laden and is right-handed, the CIA stood by it and declared it to be the official “9/11 confession video”.[xiii][xiv]
Bin Laden died in late 2001
– A Google search for “bin Laden died in 2001” brought up 31 pages of stories. Here are a few representative stories from mainstream sources, including one that may – if true — be a “smoking gun” from a top government insider:
1. “Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.
“The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead,” the source said.
Bin Laden, according to the source, was suffering from a serious lung complication and succumbed to the disease in mid-December 2001, in the vicinity of the Tora Bora mountains. The source claimed that bin Laden was laid to rest honorably in his last abode and his grave was made as per his Wahabi belief.
About 30 close associates of bin Laden in Al Qaeda, including his most trusted and personal bodyguards, his family members and some “Taliban friends,” attended the funeral rites. A volley of bullets was also fired to pay final tribute to the “great leader.” December 26, 2001.[xv]
2. Translation of Funeral Article in Egyptian Paper: al-Wafd, Wednesday, December 26, 2001 Vol. 15 No. 4633
Islamabad — A prominent official in the Afghan Taliban movement announced yesterday the death of Usama bin Laden, the chief of al-Qa’da organization, stating that bin Laden suffered serious complications in the lungs and died a natural and quiet death. The official, who asked to remain anonymous, stated to The Observer of Pakistan that he had himself attended the funeral of bin Laden and saw his face prior to burial in Tora Bora 10 days ago. He mentioned that 30 of al-Qa’da fighters attended the burial as well as members of his family and some friends from the Taliban. In the farewell ceremony to his final rest guns were fired in the air. The official stated that it is difficult to pinpoint the burial location of bin Laden because according to the Wahhabi tradition no mark is left by the grave. He stressed that it is unlikely that the American forces would ever uncover any traces of bin Laden.[xvi]
3. “Usama bin Laden is dead. The news first came from sources in Afghanistan and Pakistan almost six months ago: the fugitive died in December [2001] and was buried in the mountains of southeast Afghanistan. Pakistan’s former president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, echoed the information. The remnants of Usama’s gang, however, have mostly stayed silent, either to keep Usama’s ghost alive or because they have no means of communication.
“With an ego the size of Mount Everest, Usama bin Laden would not have, could not have, remained silent for so long if he were still alive. He always liked to take credit even for things he had nothing to do with. Would he remain silent for nine months and not trumpet his own survival?”[xvii]
4. “The Bin Laden Scam is One of the Most Shameful Acts Ever Perpetrated…”
By Gordon Duff, Veterans Today, December 5, 2009
“Conservative commentator, former Marine Colonel Bob Pappas has been saying for years that bin Laden died at Tora Bora and that Senator Kerry’s claim that bin Laden escaped with Bush help was a lie. Now we know that Pappas was correct. The embarrassment of having Secretary of State Clinton talk about bin Laden in Pakistan was horrific. He has been dead since December 13, 2001 and now, finally, everyone, Obama, McChrystal, Cheney, everyone who isn’t nuts is finally saying what they have known for years.
“We know this: Bin Laden always denied any ties to 9/11 and, in fact, has never been charged in relation to 9/11. He not only denied involvement, but had done so, while alive, 4 times and had vigorously condemned those who were involved in the attack.
“This is on the public record, public in every free country except ours. We, instead, showed films made by paid actors, made up to look somewhat similar to bin Laden, actors who contradicted bin Laden’s very public statements, actors pretending to be bin Laden long after bin Laden’s death.”[xviii]
5. Top Government Insider: Bin Laden Died in 2001, 9/11 A False Flag
The most recent (4 May 2011) story is – if true – perhaps the most damning and explosive, from a man who was appointed to sensitive and influential positions in the Secretary of State and Defense departments by five presidents going back to Richard Nixon. This story deserves an extended citation (link to full story at the end):
“Top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly told The Alex Jones Show yesterday that Usama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job.
“Pieczenik cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”. He served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. A former US Navy Captain, Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT.
“Recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management, Pieczenik went on to develop, “the basic tenets for psychological warfare, counter terrorism, strategy and tactics for transcultural negotiations for the US State Department, military and intelligence communities and other agencies of the US Government,” while also developing foundational strategies for hostage rescue that were later employed around the world.
“Pieczenik also served as a senior policy planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker and worked on George W. Bush’s election campaign against Al Gore. His record underscores the fact that he is one of the most deeply connected men in intelligence circles over the past three decades plus.
“The character of Jack Ryan, who appears in many Tom Clancy novels and was also played by Harrison Ford in the popular 1992 movie Patriot Games, is also based on Steve Pieczenik.
“Back in April 2002, over nine years ago, Pieczenik told the Alex Jones Show that Bin Laden had already been “dead for months,” and that the government was waiting for the most politically expedient time to roll out his corpse. Pieczenik would be in a position to know, having personally met Bin Laden and worked with him during the proxy war against the Soviets in Afghanistan back in the early 80′s.
“Pieczenik said that Usama Bin Laden died in 2001, “Not because special forces had killed him, but because as a physician I had known that the CIA physicians had treated him and it was on the intelligence roster that he had marfan syndrome,” adding that the US government knew Bin Laden was dead before they invaded Afghanistan.”
Marfan syndrome is a degenerative genetic disease for which there is no permanent cure. The illness severely shortens the life span of the sufferer.
“He died of marfan syndrome, Bush junior knew about it, the intelligence community knew about it,” said Pieczenik, noting how CIA physicians had visited Bin Laden in July 2001 at the American Hospital in Dubai.
“He was already very sick from marfan syndrome and he was already dying, so nobody had to kill him,” added Pieczenik, stating that Bin Laden died shortly after 9/11 in his Tora Bora cave complex.
“Pieczenik explained that he was not a liberal, a conservative or a tea party member, merely an American who is deeply concerned about the direction in which his country is heading.”
(The website Above Top Secret is now running the story of a nearly complete media blackout relating to Dr. Pieczenik’s story.)[xix]
Most of this information is known to Fox News, The New York Times, The Washington Post and the administrations of both the GW Bush and Obama. If the subject were less emotional and complex, hoardes of reporters would already have torn the official version to shreds. But the way Obama’s administration packaged and released the stories was meant to – and did – plunge all of us into the fiery picture of bloody heroics in the made-for-movie saga of a continuing fight for Good against Evil. The high temperature of the story directs us toward uncritical acceptance, along with admiration and gratitude for the courage of both our Navy SEALS and – not incidentally – President Obama.
With our leaders operating within the supercharged atmosphere inside the Beltway, they live in a setting of secrecy conducive to creating True Believers. The danger of such closed circles was perhaps put best by Albert Speer, who was the only Nazi to confess, then to write clearly and forcefully just how the process worked. This is not meant to compare our government with the Nazis – just to say the presence of so much secrecy easily traps the key players inside a hall of mirrors:
In normal circumstances, people who turn their backs on reality are soon set straight by the mockery and criticism of those around them, which makes them aware they have lost credibility. In the Third Reich there were no such correctives, especially for those who belonged to the upper stratum. On the contrary, every self-deception was multiplied as in a hall of distorting mirrors, becoming a repeatedly confirmed picture of a fantastical dream world, which no longer bore any relationship to the grim outside world. In those mirrors I could see nothing but my own face reproduced many times over.[xx]
Our whole country is now engulfed by an incendiary story that reeks of dangerous propaganda. It’s time we stopped shouting “Fire!” and began shouting “Theater!”
ENDNOTES:
[i] http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/white-house-goes-silent-on-bin-laden-raid/2011/05/04/AF1v87rF_story.html?nl_headlines
[ii] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1383934/Usama-Bin-Laden-dead-Obama-DIDNT-Al-Qaeda-leader-killed.html#ixzz1LVoUY11h
[iii] http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/05/03/propaganda_bin_laden)
[iv] http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/analysis-in-aftermath-of-daring-raid-obama-reintroducing-himself-to-nation/2011/05/06/AFgmgP5F_story.html?nl_headlines
[v] http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/2002/11/13_Laden.html
[vi] copied from the website of journalist Robert Fisk, http://www.robert-fisk.com/usama_interview_ummat.htm
[vii] fbi.gov/wanted/wanted_terrorists/usama-bin-laden
[viii] http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten
[ix] http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/16-no-hard-evidence-connecting-bin-laden-to-9-11/
[x] http://www.twf.org/News/Y2006/0608-BinLaden.html
[xi] http://www.infowars.com/former-cia-officials-admit-to-faking-bin-laden-video/
[xii] http://www.ascertainthetruth.com/att/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=288:cia-admits-bin-laden-videos-are-fake&catid=58:the-911-event&Itemid=115
[xiii] http://www.prisonplanet.com/former-cia-officials-admit-to-faking-bin-laden-video.html
[xiv] http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/videos/war/gordon-duff-years-of-deceitus-openly-accepts-bin-laden-long-dead.html
[xv] http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html
[xvi] http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html
[xvii] New York Times. July 11, 2002
[xviii] http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/12/05/years-of-deceit-us-openly-accepts-bin-laden-long-dead/
[xix] The topic started on May 6, 2011 @ 12:12 PM by monkeySEEmonkeyDO:
“I have been noticing a complete media blackout with the ULIMATE 911 whistleblower, Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, and I attempted to search through the MSM’s websites for ANY record of his name. Here is a small, yet powerful, list of major news networks who REFUSE to acknowledge this brave and honest man:
Businessinsider.com
BBC.co.uk
Foxnews
CNN.com
Msnbc.msn.com
NBC.com
Aljazeera.com
AP.org (Associated Press)
Reuters.com
ABCnews.com
China.org.cn
News.yahoo.com
Telegraph.co.uk
Huffingtonpost.com
Aol.com
Nytimes.com
LAtimes.com
Chicagotribune.com
Drudgereport.com
HOWEVER… I did find one major news network that did post this story. The brave and daring washingtonpost.com posted the ground breaking story but posted it under the “lifestyle” section which is right next to the home garden and travel sections… LOL.. I can NOT make this stuff up”. (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread699847/pg1)
[xx] Carol Tavris and Elliot Aronson, Mistakes Were Made (but not by me) – Why We Justify Foolish Beliefs, Bad Decisions, and Hurtful Acts, 2007, p. 65
AUTHOR BIO: Davidson Loehr is a former musician, combat photographer and press officer in Vietnam, owner of a photography studio in Ann Arbor, then a carpenter. He holds a Ph.D. in methods of studying religion, theology, the philosophy of religion and the philosophy of science, with an additional focus on language philosophy (The University of Chicago). From 1986 to 2009, he served as a Unitarian minister, and has been a Fellow in the Jesus Seminar since 1992. He is the author of one book, America, Fascism & God: Sermons from a Heretical Preacher, (Chelsea Green, 2005). Davidson is now retired, living in Austin, TX.
Photage from Osama compound released shows that its a fake Osama
Joshua Holland Asks Did Osama bin Laden Win the “War on Terror”?
By Joshua Holland
We now have conflicting accounts of Osama bin Laden’s death at the hands of a U.S. special forces team in a tony Pakistani suburb this week.
President Obama, in his address to the nation Sunday night, painted a picture of a perfectly clean, morally unambiguous operation: he said the U.S. was prepared to take the terror leader alive, but a major firefight ensued and, after trying to use his wife as a human shield, bin Laden went down with guns blazing.
The White House “revised” several key details of the raid in the following days. Bin Laden wasn’t armed after all (he still “resisted,” officials say, although it’s unclear how one resists a heavily armed special forces team without a weapon), and he didn’t use a human shield. One official told CNN that there were no armed guards at the compound, another told Reuters that the Navy Seals team had been ordered to kill rather than capture bin Laden and NBC News reported that nobody fired a shot at the SEALs. Bin Laden’s daughter, who was present during the raid, said that U.S. forces first captured their quarry alive and then executed him.
We don’t know what happened that night. But we should at least acknowledge that there were any number of reasons why dumping bin Laden’s corpse in the ocean would have been seen as far less problematic than taking him alive. What, exactly, would they have done with him? The International Criminal Court can only consider cases committed after 2001, and trying him in a domestic court with its evidentiary procedures was never an option. He could have been tried by military commission, but that process hasn’t been widely accepted as legitimate.
On the margins, there has been some debate about the morality—and legality—of such a “kill team” operation, but most Americans, understandably, couldn’t care less. Even if we did assassinate him, so what? Bin Laden was a mass murderer, the bastard got his just rewards, and the U.S. government proved it could still accomplish a major national goal. The country got closure for the attacks of 9/11, and perhaps could now begin to wind down its “war on terror.”
That discussion has overlooked an important question, however. Setting aside the moral and legal implications, and our visceral, emotional satisfaction at seeing an outlaw shot down, would the decision to kill rather than capture him have been in the best interests of the U.S. and the international fight against terrorism?
Martyrdom has always been a powerful inspiration for others. I certainly don’t blame Americans for rejoicing in the news of bin Laden’s death, but we may have given him the exact ending he would have wanted.
I would argue that it would not have been—that, in fact, the reverse would hold true. Osama bin Laden is widely seen to have become a figurehead without direct operational command of the organization he founded. His importance, at this point in time, was largely symbolic. He served as an inspiration for extremists around the globe. Had he a choice in the matter, I have no doubt that he would have wanted nothing more than to die in a hail of gunfire by foreign troops in a predominantly Muslim country, a martyr to his cause, rather than rot away in a military prison, aging poorly and providing living proof that the world’s most prominent terrorist—a figure who had been elevated to an existential threat—was ultimately impotent in the face of the world’s greatest super-power.
Martyrdom has always been a powerful inspiration for others. I certainly don’t blame Americans for rejoicing in the news of bin Laden’s death, but we may have given him the exact ending he would have wanted, and, in doing so, we may have inspired others to follow his path to a “glorious” expiration.
This, again, is entirely speculative so long as the details of the raid remain obscure. But it mirrors another argument that is not so: that Osama bin Laden’s attacks provoked the U.S. into a disastrous over-reaction—drawing it into an unwinnable and often hellish ground-war in Afghanistan and ultimately costing us thousands of American lives, trillions of dollars in national wealth, an enormous amount of international prestige and, more importantly, influence over global affairs.
That argument was ably sketched out this week by Ezra Klein of the Washington Post, based on an interview he conducted with Daveed Gartenstein-Ross, the Director of the Center for the Study of Terrorist Radicalization at the neoconservative Foundation for Defense of Democracies. As Klein put it, Gartenstein-Ross thinks bin Laden “had a strategy that we never bothered to understand, and thus that we never bothered to defend against.” His goal was not some fantasy about establishing a worldwide caliphate or imposing “Sharia law” on Greenwich Village; having seen the Soviet Union decline in large part by bankrupting itself in an arms race with the U.S., with a huge assist from the Mujahadeen fighting them in Afghanistan, his objective was to wage economic war against the United States by drawing it into a similar conflict.
Writing in Foreign Policy, Gartenstein-Ross noted that “the Soviet Union didn’t just withdraw from Afghanistan in ignominious defeat, but the Soviet empire itself collapsed soon thereafter, in late 1991.”
Thus, bin Laden thought that he hadn’t just bested one of the world’s superpowers on
the battlefield, but had actually played an important role in its demise. It is indisputable
that the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan did not directly collapse the Soviet Union;
the most persuasive connection that can be drawn between that war and the Soviet
empire’s dissolution is through the costs imposed by the conflict.
“The campaign [against the Soviets] taught bin Laden a lot,” wrote Klein:
For one thing, superpowers fall because their economies crumble, not because they’re
beaten on the battlefield. For another, superpowers are so allergic to losing that they'll
bankrupt themselves trying to conquer a mass of rocks and sand. This was bin Laden’s
plan for the United States, too.
Did it work? Well, that depends on how you look at it. The U.S. economy is far more resilient than the Soviet economy of the 1980s, and we haven’t gone anywhere, so in that sense it did not. But prior to the attacks, the Congressional Budget Office projected that we’d see budget surpluses throughout the decade. We face a large deficit now, in large part, because of Bush’s decision to declare a “war” on terrorism—and to wage conventional wars against Afghanistan and Iraq—and then pass the first war-time tax cuts in the history of the Republic.
It would be a mistake to link the so-called “Arab Spring” directly to the decline of American influence in the Middle East, but it would be equally shortsighted to dismiss it as a contributing factor.
I would take the analysis a step further. The decision to go to “war” against a tactic also brought with it significant restrictions on our civil liberties; no longer could we credibly claim to be a beacon of freedom that the world ought to emulate.
Finally, we have to consider some geopolitics. University of Chicago scholar Robert Pape, one of the world’s foremost experts on suicide terrorism, argues that all such acts have a common goal: to induce Democracies to withdrawal from lands they occupy (either directly or by proxy). The decision to declare “war” on terrorism—and a couple of nation-states—led directly to the death and displacement of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians, as well as the scandals surrounding Abu Ghraib, the CIA’s secret detention facilities, extraordinary renditions, Guantanamo Bay, and all the rest. And all of those things resulted in a very significant decline in the United States’ global prestige, and our ability to influence global events.
Since its founding, al Qaeda has had two big, fat targets aside from the United States: the Saudi and Egyptian governments. Ten years after 9/11, the regime of Hosni Mubarak is gone, and last week, the Wall Street Journal reported that Israeli officials were “urging Washington to make it clear that the U.S. would intervene in Saudi Arabia should the survival of that government be threatened.” It would be a mistake to link the so-called “Arab Spring” directly to the decline of American influence in the Middle East, but it would be equally shortsighted to dismiss it as a contributing factor.
Perhaps this argument gives bin Laden too much credit. But terrorism is ultimately a tactic used by marginal extremist groups against far more powerful enemies. Bin Laden couldn’t have known that we’d invade Iraq, but the idea that the United States under George W. Bush would react to acts of terror with acts of war against at least Afghanistan was not terribly difficult to predict. And the ruinous results of that reaction are apparent. We’re still around, and it’s likely that we have now killed or captured every single human being who was operationally involved in the attacks of 9/11, so perhaps it was a draw. But a superpower spending trillions to fight with a handful of terrorists to a draw may have been the best outcome for which bin Laden realistically could have hoped.
This is important to understand for one reason. As Daveed Gartenstein-Ross noted, “bin Laden’s strategic ideas for beating a superpower…have permeated his organization, and are widely shared by al Qaeda’s affiliates.” Osama bin Laden may be dead, but his ideology remains, and we continue to hemorrhage blood and treasure in a futile conflict into which the “terror mastermind” may well have drawn us. It’s time that we stop doing what international terrorists want us to do.
Copyright 2011 Joshua Hollandhttp://www.guernicamag.com/blog/2644/joshua_holland_did_osama_bin_laden_win/
Reaction of Noam Chomsky to Osama bin Laden’s Death
By Noam Chomsky
It’s increasingly clear that the operation was a planned assassination, multiply violating elementary norms of international law. There appears to have been no attempt to apprehend the unarmed victim, as presumably could have been done by 80 commandos facing virtually no opposition—except, they claim, from his wife, who lunged towards them. In societies that profess some respect for law, suspects are apprehended and brought to fair trial. I stress “suspects.” In April 2002, the head of the FBI, Robert Mueller, informed the press that after the most intensive investigation in history, the FBI could say no more than that it “believed” that the plot was hatched in Afghanistan, though implemented in the UAE and Germany. What they only believed in April 2002, they obviously didn’t know 8 months earlier, when Washington dismissed tentative offers by the Taliban (how serious, we do not know, because they were instantly dismissed) to extradite bin Laden if they were presented with evidence—which, as we soon learned, Washington didn’t have. Thus Obama was simply lying when he said, in his White House statement, that “we quickly learned that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by al Qaeda.”
Nothing serious has been provided since. There is much talk of bin Laden’s “confession,” but that is rather like my confession that I won the Boston Marathon. He boasted of what he regarded as a great achievement.
There is also much media discussion of Washington’s anger that Pakistan didn’t turn over bin Laden, though surely elements of the military and security forces were aware of his presence in Abbottabad. Less is said about Pakistani anger that the U.S. invaded their territory to carry out a political assassination. Anti-American fervor is already very high in Pakistan, and these events are likely to exacerbate it. The decision to dump the body at sea is already, predictably, provoking both anger and skepticism in much of the Muslim world.
It’s like naming our murder weapons after victims of our crimes: Apache, Tomahawk… It’s as if the Luftwaffe were to call its fighter planes “Jew” and “Gypsy.”
We might ask ourselves how we would be reacting if Iraqi commandos landed at George W. Bush’s compound, assassinated him, and dumped his body in the Atlantic. Uncontroversially, his crimes vastly exceed bin Laden’s, and he is not a “suspect” but uncontroversially the “decider” who gave the orders to commit the “supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole” (quoting the Nuremberg Tribunal) for which Nazi criminals were hanged: the hundreds of thousands of deaths, millions of refugees, destruction of much of the country, the bitter sectarian conflict that has now spread to the rest of the region.
There’s more to say about [Cuban airline bomber Orlando] Bosch, who just died peacefully in Florida, including reference to the “Bush doctrine” that societies that harbor terrorists are as guilty as the terrorists themselves and should be treated accordingly. No one seemed to notice that Bush was calling for invasion and destruction of the U.S. and murder of its criminal president.
Same with the name, Operation Geronimo. The imperial mentality is so profound, throughout western society, that no one can perceive that they are glorifying bin Laden by identifying him with courageous resistance against genocidal invaders. It’s like naming our murder weapons after victims of our crimes: Apache, Tomahawk… It’s as if the Luftwaffe were to call its fighter planes “Jew” and “Gypsy.”
There is much more to say, but even the most obvious and elementary facts should provide us with a good deal to think about.
Copyright 2011 Noam Chomskyhttp://www.guernicamag.com/blog/2652/noam_chomsky_my_reaction_to_os/
Saturday, May 7, 2011
Top Secret Stealth Helicopter Used In Osama Bin Laden Raid
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In addition to the noise-reducing modifications, a former special operations aviator told The Army Times the general shape of what was left of the craft -- the harsh angles and flat surfaces more common to stealth jets -- was further evidence it was a modified variant of the Blackhawk.
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Since, the government has been working to silence the Army's Blackhawk helicopters but an official program for the stealth choppers was never publicized. The wreckage, Sweetman said, is the first the public has ever seen of an operational stealth-modified helicopter.
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But now that one went down and photographs emerged of large sections being taken from the crash site under a tarp, former White House counterterrorism advisor and ABC News consultant Richard Clarke said U.S. officials may have reason to worry about where those parts end up.
"There are probably people in the Pentagon tonight who are very concerned that pieces of the helicopter may be, even now, on their way to China, because we know that China is trying to make stealth aircraft," he said. The Chinese military is known to have a close relationship with the Pakistani military.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/top-secret-stealth-helicopter-program-revealed-osama-bin/story?id=13530693
Pakistani Radars Were Inactive, Not Jammed: Pakistan Air Chief
Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman has accepted the responsibility of air surveillance failure but informed the government that the entry of American helicopters into the Pakistani air space was not detected because the radars deployed on the western borders were not active on May 2. He dispelled the impression that the Pakistani radars were jammed.
The success of American operation against Osama bin Laden has raised many questions about the capability of Pakistan Army and Air Force. Tension between Pakistan and the US further increased on Friday after another drone attack in the tribal area. The PAF clearly told the government that they never perceived any threat for urban areas of Pakistan from Afghanistan and that was why the radars deployed close to the western borders were “on rest”. It was learnt that radars deployed on the borders with India and the LoC with the Indian occupied Kashmir are active 24 hours and that was why Pakistan came to know about a possible Indian attack in December 2008 immediately after the Mumbai attacks. It was the evening of December 21, 2008 when Pakistan came to know about the unusual movement of Indian Army and Air Force. When the threat was confirmed, then within minutes Pakistan Air Force night fighters were ordered to fly.
Pakistan has two kinds of radars, high-level radars and low-level radars. High-level radars are meant to protect the air space. Low-level radars are used for training flights. The maximum life of high-level radars is 25,000 hours. These radars need overhauling after three years and they cannot work after nine years. Due to the expensive nature of high-level radars, Pakistan Air Force does not use these machines 24 hours on western borders and that was the reason the American helicopters entered Pakistan without challenge.
It was also learnt that Pakistan Air Force informed the government long ago for the need of a modern surveillance system, which could cover all the areas of Pakistan. On the request of the PAF, the former government made a deal with Sweden and China for the purchase of modern aircraft with radar systems.
The PAF has received three Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS) planes from Sweden and one more will come in June 2011. China has provided one ZDK-03 Airborne Early Warning and Control (AEWC) plane and three more will come at the end of this year. These modern machines will be activated soon and it will cover the whole of Pakistan. In the meanwhile, PAF activated all radars deployed on the western borders after the May 2 incident, which means that foreign forces present in Afghanistan will now be considered as a threat to the security of Pakistan.
Defence sources are of the view that the CIA chief’s statement about Pakistan had forced them to think objectively and honestly about our real friends and real enemies. These sources clearly said: “Osama bin Laden declared war not only against America but also against Pakistan Army, we lost 3,500 soldiers, we arrested most of his close comrades but Americans never took us into confidence about the May 2 operation and even after the success of their unilateral operation, they tried to humiliate us in their traditional arrogant style but we will not tolerate their arrogance in future.”
When asked why there was another drone attack in North Waziristan on Friday, the defence sources said, “We can stop the drones like we destroyed one Indian drone a few years back at the night time, let the political government allow us and we will not disappoint our countrymen.” They insist: “We were not sure about the identity of intruders on May 2 but when the PAF chief came to know about the presence of some helicopters in Abbottabad through the Army, he immediately ordered his night fighters to shoot down the unknown helicopters. Night fighters were in the air within 15 minutes but when they reached Abbottabad, by that time the unknown helicopters had disappeared”.
These sources say: “Let them come again from the west or even from the east and the world will see our real action.”
http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetai...amp;dt=5/7/2011
Wednesday, May 4, 2011
A skype: On OBL and relgion
Steve
yes, miami areaZahid
Miami is a city in florida?Steve
yesTAI is to Miami as Abbotabad is to Islamabad...lol
close enough to have a dinner
lol
Zahid
lol
American brought him over from Afghanistan and shoot him in Abbotabad and fled
the house was safe house of CIA
Steve
lolyou are too funny
I wondered how long it would be before it was a conspiracy
...here you will find plenty of conspiracy theorists that you can have a coffee with while enjoying a quality of life afforded by our conspiracies...I can't wait
from what the news is saying, here in the US, including the "liberal" media that hated Bush...water boarding Kahlid Sheik Mohammed gave us the name of the "courier" that UBL used to get messages...
so all we had to do was be patient and wait for this guys name to surface and then go get him/UBL as soon as the two were tied together
it also seems that we knew UBL was living in that city for the past 8 months, at least.
the question is, how could he live so close to your military college and under the nose of the ISI without detection
I don't think he was undetected
Zahid
one nations freedom figters are other nations terroristsSteve
I think your govt. knew he was there and was "supporting" himlol
true
but Pakistan had no dog in this fight
UBL killed more Muslim's that he did anyone else
Zahid
yeah i know oneSteve
he wasn't a very good Musliim, from what you've saidZahid
America did in iraqfirst through sanctions 1 million
thn during war
1 million
Steve
I pray for the souls of any innocent victimregardless of their religion
Zahid
me tooSteve
i knowour desires are identical
Zahid
it makes me sad whenever non muslim diesbecuase he will be in hell for enternity
Steve
lolnot if he is a christian
Zahid
i wish i could have helped them and revert them to being muslimSteve
muslims are even allowed in heaven due to the sacrifice of jesusbut your religion doesn't allow Christians into heaven
isn't that odd?
ours does and your doesn't?
Jesus died to forgive all of our sins
and through his death we are all granted life everlasting
because no one gets to heaven but through his death
Zahid
its not up to prophets to decide who live is heavenit is Allah' way
Steve
he isn't a prophethe is the savior
Zahid
for us he isSteve
i knowwho is the Islam equivalent of Jesus?
son of God and all
Zahid
no onewe dont have God's son
Steve
bummer...well you can join our team.. and then you will have a SaviorZahid
God is one and he likes to be called by the name of AllahSteve
Jaweh?Zahid
although he has 99 othe namesSteve
rightZahid : HE
Steve
so who knows what He likes to be called?Zahid
like Rehman= THE mercifulSteve
Mohammed?Zahid
didnt get you questionSteve
we won't probably ever convince each other...I'm just happy to know that your love of He will deliver you to heaven so that we can share a Tea and a smilewho decides what He likes to be called, Mohammed?
Zahid
you are asking about Muhammad PBUH?his fav name?
Steve
yes, who said what He likes to be called?Zahid
i think its written in Holy Quran or may be Muhammed said it...i am not sure
Steve
no matter, He knows when we think or speak of HimZahid
yeah may Allah show you the right path so you can become muslim and enjoy life in heavenSteve
too bad the rest of the world doesn't get to enjoy the conversations that you and I haveZahid
may be i can post it on my blog?Steve
and fortunately, as a Christian, I know you get to remain a Muslim and still get into heavenZahid
what do you think?Steve
surethere are several discussion that I thought should be posted, recorded
Zahid
so if you become muslim you will too get n heavenSteve
in fact one time I wrote a "story" about our conversationsZahid
why take risklol
Steve
no, God through his Son Jesus, and my Christian faith know that you as a Muslim can also be thereshame I won't be in your heaven even though you will be in mine
do you understand the basis of the word religion?
it is based in Latin and means to constrain
this is where "man" puts his influence on God so that they can attempt to control us while on Earth
God probably chuckles at our folly
he loves us all
and has provided us the greatest gift of all...life and free will
so that we can enjoy his gift
the differences between us are all the result of "men" trying to control us
not of God
Zahid
according to our religion Allah can forgive every sin but not shirkSteve
shirk?Zahid
sin of idolatry or polytheismSteve
true...1st commandment...though shall have no other God's before meZahid
but Christians have made God out of three entitieswhich is shirk
Steve
no we haven'tZahid
Son of GodGod him self
Holy Spirit
Steve
Father, Son and Holy Ghost?Zahid
yesSteve
got it...no, God is Godthe others are his daily presence in our lives
Jesus to forgive our sins and the Holy Spirit to be in our lives on a daily basis
Jesus was crucified, buried, raised from the dead and 2 weeks later ascended into heaven
40 days after his death, God delivered the Holy Spirit
the Holy Spirit is present in our conversations
We are not separate from God
we are part of Him
and the Holy Spirit is our connection..it is what moves us to good
Zahid
We say nothing is Hidden from Allah He knows everythingSteve
agreedZahid
Christian concept is difficult to craspSteve
God so loved the world He gave his only Sonto absolve the sins/weaknesses of humans
God sent Jesus to live as a Human, to experience the Human condition, but to not himself be human
and then to be wrongly crucified by man
to atone for our sins
Zahid
Jesus PBUH was a prophet he was given miracles ..but Chiristians think that he was Son of Godhe was Prophet of God
Steve
your sins and my sins...2000+ years laterZahid
no amount of pain can erase sins of billions of peopleSteve
I know that your religion declares him a Prophetwe know he is the Son of God
God's Son could erase the sins of billions of people...Jesus was God's Son...nothing is impossible to God
Zahid
every man will be answerable for his own deedsSteve
of course...if you are a bad person, God knows that and you will be sent to HellUBL is there now
Zahid
otherwise thr is no point in doign Good since bcz of Jesus we have been cleanedSteve
no...it isn't a free passyou don't get to be horrible
Jesus died so that we can go to heaven
before that...no one could get there
Zahid
Western media knows he was bad thus you know he was badyou never met him personally
Steve
trueI have never met UBL
and I am only going on his own words regarding the death of 3000 people
but that person, he doesn't get into heaven
Jesus didn't die for evil
Zahid
thats not true...people of Moses got into paradise too..i mean those who folowed himSteve
he opened a door so that we could go to heavenbut we have to go through that door...through jesus
Zahid
whySteve
people of Moses get to heaven, along with Muslimsbecause they are good people
Zahid
people of Moses got into paradiseAbrahim people too
Steve
once they understood God, yesbefore that, i don't know..but apparently not
does Islam talk about Noah?
that's pre Muslim
right?
Zahid
yesIslam does
Steve
or the story of Soddom and Gomorrah?Zahid
1 minSteve
k...i gotta get some sleeplol
goodnight/day Z...God/Allah bless you
Zahid
yes Islam does talk abt themok talk to you later
Good night
Steve
quickly...God chose Abraham to establish the presence of God on earthAbrahim became Abraham, Sarai became Sarah
and they were old and childless
and God spoke to Abrahim and said change your name, take your old self and your old, childless wife, and follow my will
before that, God was vengeful
then he granted mercy and grace
and through Abraham both of our religions were formed
both of our love of God is tied to this one man
who had faith and followed God's will
and God' mercy bestowed on us the ability to live forever in heaven
and His grace is the ability to fall short of God's wishes for us, and through his Son, still get access to Heaven
not automatically...not without genuine compassion and effort
but not because I am Christian or because you are Muslim
inspite of the fact that we are what we are...grace
we all fall short of God's wish for us
no matter what we do, we cannot live up to God's expectations/wish for us
I can't be "clean" enough no matter what I do, no matter how many prayers
Zahid
I dont know what God expects in Bible but Islam is very much doable and thats what God expectsSteve
that, I think, is where religion perverts GodZahid
arent 10 commandments doable?Steve
10 commandments aren't the "benchmark" to gaining access to heaventhey are a measure by which you know you are living as God would like
Zahid
they certianly look to menothing is impossible
Steve
agreedZahid
in those 10 commandmentsok you must be sleepy
Steve
way sleepy...goodnightZahid
good night